Category Archives: Mt Sutro Cloud Forest

Hazardous Tree Removal, Chain Link Fence, etc

At the last agenda planning meeting, one of the issues raised was managing hazardous trees near homes. A Forest Knolls resident of Crestmont Drive pointed out that neither the City nor UCSF were accepting responsibility for hazardous trees (some dead, … Continue reading

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Creating a Fire Ladder?

One of the elements of the plan for the Demonstration Areas is to remove vines that climb tree-trunks to a height of ten feet. The vines above that level (maybe another 100 feet or so) will of course die. This … Continue reading

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Making Wildlife Into Vermin

Just like weeds are plants growing in the wrong place, vermin are animals in the wrong place. Most often, in the context of a  city like San Francisco, that would be in or near our homes, interfering in some way … Continue reading

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Report: Agenda Planning Meeting #3

This agenda planning meeting discussed the four demonstration sites, herbicide usage, and more fundamental issues of process and input. It clarifies what UCSF/ Sutro Stewards want:  to remove the forest, and convert the mountain to a park with broad trails, … Continue reading

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More Sutro Forest Birds

Some time ago, we’d posted a bird-list from birder Keith McAllister: Nearly 30 species seen or heard in a single morning in the Sutro Forest. From several other people, and covering several separate visits to the forest, we have yet … Continue reading

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The “Demonstration Projects”

At the June 30  meeting, Ray Moritz, the forester hired by UCSF, presented the Demonstration projects. As we mentioned in the report on that meeting, we were surprised. We’d thought the areas discussed at the Agenda Planning meeting had been … Continue reading

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Our notes on UCSF’s Notes – May 25th Meeting

This is UCSF’s summary of the May 25th meeting, which we reported on here. We have edited it for clarity. “C” stands for comment; “Q” for question; “A” for an answer provided by UCSF or by its hired arborist, Ray … Continue reading

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Six Reasons Not to Destroy Sutro Forest’s Understory

We have been talking about the destruction of the forest’s understory in several areas. This is not an innocuous activity.  Here are six reasons why: Creating a fire hazard. We have explained at length that the Cloud Forest, in its … Continue reading

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Habitat Destruction in Sutro Forest

We posted recently about the destruction of the forest understory along the South Ridge trail, near where it meets the Nike Rd. Now we hear that this isn’t the only area where habitat has been destroyed along the trail. Areas … Continue reading

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The 1976 UC Regents’ Resolution

As promised, Barbara Bagot-Lopez of UCSF sent us a link to the 1976 resolution by the UC Regents. Most of it pertains to housing on Third Avenue, but it also makes the Open Space Reserve Permanent. For your convenience, we … Continue reading

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Sutro Forest Updates

We were up in the forest this evening for a bit. Here’s what we saw: 1. The Chain link fence on Pad#4 in the Aldea campus has been erected, complete with the three gates promised (one is big enough to … Continue reading

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Report: UCSF’s Agenda Planning Meeting #2

This evening we had the second of three scheduled agenda planning meetings. Those present were the usual agenda-planners, with the addition of Walter Caplan (President, Forest Knolls Neighborhood Organization) who had been outside the country at the previous one. This … Continue reading

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Report: UCSF Sutro Forest Meeting May 2010

This is a report on UCSF’s May 25th Community meeting. There are some changes following from previous meetings: The Environmental Review shows six steps instead of just a black box. The ending is not a predetermined cutting of trees on … Continue reading

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Increasing Biodiversity

The New Scientist, a well-reputed science magazine, ran an editorial recently headed, “Let’s put an end to biosentimentality.” It argued that “While a few introduced species have wreaked havoc, some biologists argue that most increase biodiversity, both directly and by … Continue reading

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Report: UCSF’s Agenda-Planning Meeting

After withdrawing its FEMA proposal, UCSF decided to go ahead on its own. It convened a small group of supporters and opponents for an agenda planning meeting prior to its planned Community workshop. UCSF plans to hold three such meetings, … Continue reading

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Protecting Mount Sutro Cloud Forest Helps Biodiversity

We’d like to put Mt Sutro Cloud Forest in the context of the bio-diversity in the Western part of San Francisco. This is an 80-acre forest (including both the UCSF portion and the Interior Green Belt). That’s fairly large for … Continue reading

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Dialogue with Sutro Biker

This conversation with Sutro Biker started in the Comments. We felt it was interesting enough to have it in a separate post instead of buried at the bottom of a page. ************************************************************************ Sutro Biker (SB): I still can’t believe all the misinformation … Continue reading

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Flowers in the Forest

Usually, we’re up in the forest for the trees, and those are certainly lovely. But it’s spring in the forest, and it has flowers, too. We even saw a cineraria. The native garden is finally all green. The pink-flowered currant … Continue reading

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Sutro Cloud Forest’s Micro-climate

Sutro Cloud Forest is in the fog belt, and all summer long, its gets fog nearly every day. It’s never dry — and here’s why. The trees grab the moisture from the fog and clouds (1 in the picture); it … Continue reading

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A Forest Full of Birds

Sutro Cloud Forest is always alive with birdsong. We couldn’t identify the birds from their calls; we’re not that expert at birding. We were delighted, therefore, to hear from someone much more knowledgeable. Keith McAllister sent us a list of … Continue reading

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Sutro Forest 2010-2011: UCSF Meeting update

UCSF’s meeting was intended to inform the neighbors about the reasons for the withdrawal of the FEMA application; reaffirm their commitment to a safe, healthy, beautiful and usable forest; and lay out next steps. Barbara French opened the meeting with … Continue reading

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UCSF’s FEMA move angers “Nature in the City”

Recently, someone sent us an anti-UCSF diatribe from the newsletter of Jake Sigg, a steering committee member of Nature in the City. (That’s the parent organization of the Mt Sutro Stewards.) The topic under discussion: UCSF’s withdrawal of the FEMA … Continue reading

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UCSF Update and March 24 meeting

We attended a meeting at UCSF today, in which they addressed several planning items. On Mt Sutro, UCSF was seeking money from FEMA to gut a quarter of the forest in the name of fire hazard mitigation. What UCSF’s Lori … Continue reading

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Old Growth Forest on Mt Sutro

Some months ago, we got into a discussion with “Jimbo” about old-growth forests, in the comments section of the front page of this website. (Scroll down to see the discussions.) At the time we said: “As for old-growth, I don’t … Continue reading

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Dusk in the forest (with owls)

We walked up into the Sutro Forest on a peaceful bird-filled evening. A few outside noises drifted in. The trees were full of the tweets and trills of bird-sounds,  but the creatures themselves, evidently looking to settle in for the … Continue reading

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Low Fire Risk and the “Historic Trail”

I attended a meeting called by Parks and Rec this evening, to discuss opening access to the forest at 17th and Stanyan in Cole Valley. This the black dotted line in the map below. [ETA: The map was distributed at … Continue reading

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Trees, Copenhagen, and Climate Change

Carolyn Blair, Executive Director of the SF Tree Council (contact details below), added a comment to this website yesterday mentioning an article about the meeting at Copenhagen. We felt it deserved a separate post. “Did anyone see this important article?” … Continue reading

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Stewardship of a Forest

Two weeks ago, I visited the forest surrounding the Meiji shrine, in Tokyo, Japan. As with the Sutro Cloud Forest, I was struck by the wonderful old trees growing in the heart of a city, and wanted to find out … Continue reading

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